There's a new NOOMA video. You can see it in its entirety for the next 48 hours at the NOOMA myspace page. Below is just a clip from the video.
My favorite line...
...you may not be proud of it, but you must embrace it because it is yours.
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posted by Shannon Smith @ 10/31/2007
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How do you feel about Rob allowing Doug Pagitt to cover his pulpit a few weeks ago?
I've read/listened to some things by Doug that are out-right anti-Biblical. It makes me really wonder what Rob's beliefs are, especially since I haven't ever heard him speak about the Gospel in any context besides social justice.
Mark Driscoll also singled him out as a dangerous teacher at a recent conference at Southeastern seminary. He cites some quotes from Rob's teaching where he basically says that the Bible is meant to be read as a progression that we can extrapolate 2000 years out to find out what it means for us today.
He's just starting to make me uncomfortable about where he's leading those 10,000 people in Grand Rapids, and I was wondering what you think about it, since you seem to be a fan...
Honestly, I had never heard of Doug Pagitt until he spoke at Mars Hill. I really liked the talk he gave there.
Then, I heard the Driscoll talk where he warned against McClaren, Pagitt, and indirectly Rob Bell. I had never heard him speak before. I thought his talk was well laid out and he was an excellent speaker. I'm just not sure it was the right forum to put his opinions out there. It would be great to see all those guys in a room discussing these things.
I can say that I have never heard Rob Bell say anything that made me think "Whoa! Whoa! That's not what the bible says." Sure, some things I take with a grain of salt and think "Eehh... Maybe" and other things I am like, "Yes! That's what I'm talking about." The way I see it, Rob Bell teaches, "This is God's story and this is our place in it."
This is not directed at Mark Driscoll, since this talk was given months prior to Driscoll's talk, but here is a transcript of a talk Rob Bell gave in response to some critics. In it he claims that Mars Hill teaches "Historic Orthodox Christian faith". I'm no scholar. So, I don't exactly know what that means, but that is where he says he stands.
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